was this the change you were hoping for?

Will someone please give all the Canadian idiots who were hoping that the installation of The One would make everything allright a good round of happy slaps.   Apparently things aren’t working out exactly in our favour…

Trade Wars Brewing In Economic Malaise
Outrage in Canada as U.S. Firms Sever Ties To Obey Stimulus Rules


6 thoughts on “was this the change you were hoping for?

  1. In which case, why would some thousands of canadians embarrass themselves publically on the lawn of parliament hill when the one deigned to grace us with his presence – were they somehow trying to signal Obama that even though they knew he was a protectionist it was a-ok with them because in bringing hope and change to the world, a few canadian jobs must be sacrificed? Still idiots.

  2. I got on the Obama train, and with good reason. He is way more in line with my political views than the previous administration. Sure it sucks that the “Buy America” clause exists, but then again the system was not sustainable, and therefore doomed to failure. So they turn inwards to prop up their own. Why can’t we do the same? I guess when it comes down to it, I can take or leave NAFTA…and it looks like Obama is beginning to think the same.

  3. When the history of the 21st century is written I believe the term ‘flash in the pan’ will apply to Obama – an intellectual lightweight who says nothing better than anyone else.

    In answer to your thoughts about turning inward and buying our own, I should remind you that while it is always possible, it is not always desirable. We could, with the will power to condemn two generations of Canadians to economic misery, wean ourselves off the american teat – it would involve all sorts of expensive and counter-productive tariffs, choking off the supply of virtually all cheap imported goods – but in the end we would have a virtually self supporting economy. Unfortunately it would look like something out of the the east european bloc circa 1970 – huge inefficient industries producing for a small market, massive corruption, high prices, and two generations of economic pain – but at the end we could at least claim to be ‘independant’ of the US economy. The question you have to ask yourself is how long before the brightest and most entrepreneurial depart canada for greener pastures? The problem with ‘looking inward’ is that everyone else by and large isn’t – and the negative economic effects of ceasing to trade far outweigh any possible benefits of protectionism.

  4. I don’t know where to start. Let’s back away from the EuroBloc fantasy, and away from my disdain for NAFTA, and focus on the aspect of protectionism. We all know that the US stimulus packages have provisions built in so that only their economy can benefit. So why should Americans benefit from a Canadian stimulus package? I think the same provisions should be applied by our government, and in fact, I believe a motion is being brought forward to do just that. Keeping in mind that this is only temporary, and that it only impacts certain facets of the economy, it’s makes sense. In the end Canadians get maximum benefit from our tax dollar-funded, debt-riddled, stimulus package.

    We can talk about NAFTA, and Obama some other time, but for now, we’ll agree to disagree.

  5. I agree [to disagree].

    Last word[?] – politics in both Canada and the US in my lifetime has become very polarised thus largely preventing those aligned with the various sides from being able to work together – not sure who started and don’t particularly care, however the elevation of the cult of personality (I’ll apply that to both sides of the political fence) in politics has weakened the parliamentary process and is perhaps threatening democracy as voters become cynical.

    The good news is that you get to edit me on that other much better site – which reminds me…..

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